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Conventional and Balanced Flue Systems

Balanced flue = room sealed, usually more efficient, no conventional chimney required.
Conventional flue = uses room air and requires a suitable chimney or flue.

Conventional Flues

Conventional Flues are the most common type of chimney installed, mainly traditional brick. They work by pulling the warm air rising up out of the chimney away considering that air is passing over the top of it. This pulls air from the room through the fire/stove and up into the chimney. Conventional flue chimneys terminate in clear air 2.4m away from anything or 600mm above the ridge of the roof.

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Different types:

  • Class 1 – Brick built or clay/ concrete lined traditional chimneys opening to a fireplace at the bottom.
  • Class 2 – Prefabricated metal flue systems added to a property that has no chimney. Connected directly to a stove/fire than opening up into a fireplace.

Wood Burning, Multifuel and Pellet Stoves are conventional flues. Gas Stoves/ fires can work on both flue types but are normally bespoke made. Conventional Flues might need lining if the property of a certain age.

Balanced Flues

Balanced Flues only apply to gas stove/fires. They are constructed of one pipe inside the other. The inside pipe removes waste gasses and the other brings air for conbustion. Balanced flues are commonly known as concentric flues and are not twinwall flues. Balanced flues do not require any additional air from the room and so all stoves/ fires will be glass fronted or have a closed door that cannot be opened. They are room sealed.

Flavel HE Balanced Flue Drawing

Advantages

  • Heating Efficiency – They bring in fresh air from outside, more oxygen is available to mix with the gas for complete burning.
  • Not restricted to a particular chimney size – They can work with or without a chimney.
  • Can be fitted to a ceiling or wall – Depending on preferences or room requirements.

Disadvantages

  • Fire behind glass – Some people do not like the aesthetic visual appeal of this.
  • Glass can become scorched – With not very good upkeep or servicing.
  • Fire surround consideration – High temperatures generated by the fire.

These flues do not get as hot as conventional flues and they do not need to be run as high as conventional flues. Instead all you need is an external wall, where you can either come direct out the back of the appliance, through the wall and terminate, or rise up, bend 90° through the wall and terminate at a higher level.

So, if you have no chimney in your home, or if you are looking to place a fire in a room that either has no chimney or the chimney is not where you would like to place the fire, then a balanced flue could be the perfect option for you.

Flueless

Flueless is an alternative to a conventional or balanced flue. Electric, bio-ethanol and gas do not require a chimney to run. Gas stoves and fires feature a catalytic converter built in to them that burns off all the waste gases, meaning that it does not emit any fumes back into the room and as such requires no flue.

Converting a Conventional Flue into a Balanced Flue

Chimney Renovation Kits allow you to convert conventional flues into a balanced flues. These special kits provide a concentric pipe off the top of the stove/fire into the chimney where they will seal into a special register plate.

FAQ

What is the difference between a balanced flue and a conventional flue gas fire?

A conventional flue gas fire uses air from the room for combustion and sends the combustion gases up a suitable chimney or flue using natural draught. Conventional flue fires can be open-fronted or glass-fronted, depending on the appliance.

A balanced flue gas fire is room-sealed and normally glass-fronted. It takes combustion air directly from outside and sends combustion gases back outside through a concentric or twin-wall flue system.

Can a balanced flue gas fire be used on a conventional flue, or vice versa?

Normally, no. A balanced flue and conventional flue appliance should be treated as different appliance specifications unless the manufacturer specifically states that the model can be converted using an approved kit or procedure.

This is where the terminology gets confusing. Many manufacturers offer the same fire range in separate balanced-flue and conventional-flue versions, but that does not mean you can simply change the flue connection on one appliance. For example, Onyx offers Avanti fires in both BF and CF configurations with different flue arrangements and performance figures.

Can you get a conversion kit to change a conventional flue into a balanced flue?

Yes, but there are two very different types of “conversion”.
Some specific or older appliances have had manufacturer-approved kits that physically convert the appliance from one flue arrangement to another. You should never assume this is possible unless the appliance manufacturer explicitly approves it.

What is far more common with modern gas fires is a chimney renovation kit. This does not turn a conventional-flue fire into a balanced-flue fire. Instead, it allows a balanced-flue appliance to use an existing masonry chimney as part of its balanced-flue system. Gazco, for example, offers chimney renovation arrangements for compatible balanced-flue models, and the current Onyx Avanti range is also compatible with a chimney renovation kit.
I would make this distinction very clear on Bonfire’s existing flue guide, because customers frequently call both things a “conversion kit”. Your current article already discusses specialist chimney kits, so this would be a worthwhile clarification.

Which is more efficient: balanced flue or conventional flue?

Balanced flue gas fires are generally more efficient, particularly when comparing equivalent modern glass-fronted appliances. Because the combustion system is sealed from the room, less heated room air is lost through the flue.

The difference can be significant. The current Onyx Avanti 85, for example, is quoted at up to 91.9% for balanced flue compared with up to 77.9% for conventional flue. However, efficiency varies considerably between individual appliances, so the actual manufacturer’s figure should always be compared rather than assuming every BF fire will outperform every CF fire.

Which is better: balanced flue or conventional flue?

There isn’t one answer for every property.
Balanced flue is usually the better option when efficiency, installation flexibility and a room-sealed appliance are priorities. It is particularly useful in new builds, renovations and properties without an existing chimney.
Conventional flue can make more sense where there is already a suitable chimney, particularly when the customer wants a traditional fireplace arrangement or an appliance specifically designed for that chimney. Conventional flue also gives access to certain open-fronted gas fire designs that cannot operate as balanced flue appliances.

Do I need a chimney for a balanced flue gas fire?

No. This is one of the biggest advantages of balanced flue.
The flue can often run horizontally through an outside wall or vertically through the building and terminate through the roof, subject to the particular appliance’s permitted flue lengths, bends and terminal positions.
This means balanced flue fires can often be installed into false chimney breasts, purpose-built fireplace structures and properties that have never had a chimney.

Can a balanced flue gas fire be installed into an existing chimney?

Yes, with certain appliances. You do not necessarily need to abandon a good chimney simply because you have chosen a balanced-flue fire.

Approved chimney renovation kits can use a liner or liners within the existing chimney to create the required room-sealed combustion-air and exhaust arrangement. The exact system varies by manufacturer and appliance. Gazco specifically offers this approach on compatible balanced-flue fires.
This is actually a very good FAQ for Bonfire because people often wrongly assume:
Existing chimney = conventional flue only.
That isn’t necessarily the case.

Where can a conventional flue gas fire be installed?

A conventional-flue fire requires a suitable chimney or flue system, but that does not always mean an old-fashioned brick chimney.

Depending on the appliance, suitable options can include an existing masonry chimney, an appropriately sized flue liner, a prefabricated gas flue or certain precast flues. The appliance manufacturer determines which chimney and flue types are permitted. Gazco, for example, offers conventional-flue products for several different chimney/flue configurations.

The existing chimney should therefore be assessed rather than simply assuming that because there is a chimney, any conventional-flue fire will fit it.

Does a balanced flue or conventional flue gas fire need ventilation?

A balanced-flue appliance normally does not rely on room air for combustion, because the combustion chamber is sealed and air is supplied from outdoors.

A conventional-flue appliance takes combustion air from within the property. Whether additional purpose-provided ventilation is required depends on the appliance, its input, the installation and the applicable regulations/manufacturer’s instructions.

I would avoid saying online that “all conventional-flue fires require an air vent”, because that is too broad. The correct ventilation requirements need to be established for the particular installation. HSE emphasises that gas appliances must have adequate combustion air and an effective flue and that ventilation must not be obstructed.

Can I install a balanced flue gas fire anywhere in my house?

They are much more flexible than conventional-flue fires, but not literally anywhere.
The appliance still needs an approved route to outside. The flue may terminate through an external wall or roof depending on the appliance, but there are restrictions on flue length, the number of bends and where the terminal can sit in relation to windows, doors, boundaries and other parts of the building.

This is why a balanced-flue fire is particularly useful for new builds, extensions, rooms without chimneys, false chimney breasts and contemporary built-in fireplace designs, but the flue route should be considered at the beginning of the design rather than after the fireplace has been built.

One comment

  1. Brian Lawn

    I have a Neston Baton LPg fire with conventional flue which I now wish to use now in accommodation without a chimney and therefore need a balanced flue. I found your article very interesting and relevant. Where can I buy a conversion kit, I have found many chimney liner kits but no conversion. Have you any idea of cost. Thank you

    Where does one buy a kit to convert from conventional to balanced flue.

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